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health care system. >> when you look at obama care, you see a government centered health care delivery system. that's not what the american people want. the american people want to be able to pick their own type of health insurance and pick their own doctor and pick their own hospital. >> let me get your response to this. obviously some people interpret the government centered for socialism, which has been some of the criticism. what is your response to the patient is not driving their health care here? >> well, if patients are not driving this, i would like to know why it is we are concerned about people being able to navigate the website and go through plan by plan by plan to select the plans they want. and that's what this is all about. that's not the government telling them this is your plan. we're laying out for the american people in some instances 25 and 30. i've gone through this myself to pick out the plan i want from among the various levels that are available. that is the patient -- or potential patient taking the kind of plan he or she wants to have. what we also know is th
health care system. >> when you look at obama care, you see a government centered health care delivery system. that's not what the american people want. the american people want to be able to pick their own type of health insurance and pick their own doctor and pick their own hospital. >> let me get your response to this. obviously some people interpret the government centered for socialism, which has been some of the criticism. what is your response to the patient is not driving...
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. >> railroad there are those criticizing many in washington for having easier access to obama health care site as well. >> we put all those congressmen on the same kind of health care the rest of us have to have, i think there would be a lot quicker reform. >> in fact maybe ted cruz would not be railing so hard against it if he didn't have his wife's $40,000 a year cadillac -- whatever it is, however much it cost. >> both parties should take their party convention toss detroit. >> great call. >> harold ford guess the last piece of advice on the show. >> following capehart's lead. >> thank you to my raucous panel. that is all for now. i'll see you back tomorrow at noon eastern. "andrea mitchell reports" is coming up next. >>> i'm meteorologist bill karins. on this tuesday travel problems in the northern plains and northern rockies. a major winter storm. first the snow and then the cold will be following behind it. be careful areas like denver, a snowstorm on the way later tonight and tomorrow. same for minneapolis. that cold air will make it all the way to texas with icy conditions by
. >> railroad there are those criticizing many in washington for having easier access to obama health care site as well. >> we put all those congressmen on the same kind of health care the rest of us have to have, i think there would be a lot quicker reform. >> in fact maybe ted cruz would not be railing so hard against it if he didn't have his wife's $40,000 a year cadillac -- whatever it is, however much it cost. >> both parties should take their party convention toss...
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health insurance. saying it was creepy. don't get health insurance, young people, it is gross. the koch brothers' idea here was that young people should opt out of the health insurance, and if you wrote to their opt out of insurance website, they would send you materials to give them to your friends to let them know that getting health insurance is just not cool. around the same time, another conservative group linked to the conservative billionaire brothers launched this website in alaska to convince people in that state that they actually should not get health insurance. they actually launched two websites at once, one of which just flat out told the people there they should pledge to not get insurance. another ended up giving the same advice, don't do it under any circumstance. yesterday, the l.a. times reported on the same kind of trick being reported in california. in california it is not the same type of random group, in california it is the state republican party. california republicans are a bi
health insurance. saying it was creepy. don't get health insurance, young people, it is gross. the koch brothers' idea here was that young people should opt out of the health insurance, and if you wrote to their opt out of insurance website, they would send you materials to give them to your friends to let them know that getting health insurance is just not cool. around the same time, another conservative group linked to the conservative billionaire brothers launched this website in alaska to...
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the right has been saying president obama and his health law are dead for weeks. months, years. but guess what. both are still here. today the national journal writes about president obama's resilience. can obama recover? he did already. joining me now is the reporter with that story, national journal political correspondent alex sikes wald and james peterson, professor at lehigh university. thank you for being here. alex, your piece is about the president recovering. tell us what you noticed. >> if i had a dollar for every time somebody said obama or obama care is doomed, i could pay for the website rebuild myself. you know, at every stage when scott brown got re-elected, everyone was sure obama care was done. when the tea party came, everybody said obama care was done. obama himself, from controversies like the irs to when he criticized the arrest of henry lewis gates, he's been done. and he continued. this should be no surprise to anyone who's paid attention to history. bill clinton emerged from an impeachment scandal with the highest approval rating of his career. he's the p
the right has been saying president obama and his health law are dead for weeks. months, years. but guess what. both are still here. today the national journal writes about president obama's resilience. can obama recover? he did already. joining me now is the reporter with that story, national journal political correspondent alex sikes wald and james peterson, professor at lehigh university. thank you for being here. alex, your piece is about the president recovering. tell us what you noticed....
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msnbc will be reairing chris matthews' interview with president obama. chris is going to ask the president about 2016, health care, and the nsa. you can watch the "hardball" special today at 3:00 eastern here on msnbc. >>> it's not a political storm they're battling in d.c. we'll get an update on all the snow, sleet, and ice that's threatening large parts of the atlantic coast today and tomorrow. >>> and in number ones, where is the happiest place to work? that's giving it away right there. stick around. we'll be right back. and we'll replace stolen or destroyed items with brand-new versions. we put members first. join the nation. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ i'm bethand i'm michelle. and we own the paper cottage. it's a stationery and gifts store. anything we purchase for the paper cottage goes on our ink card. so you can manage your business expenses and access them online instantly with the game changing app from ink. we didn't get into business to spend time managing receipts, that's why we have ink. we like being in business because we like be
msnbc will be reairing chris matthews' interview with president obama. chris is going to ask the president about 2016, health care, and the nsa. you can watch the "hardball" special today at 3:00 eastern here on msnbc. >>> it's not a political storm they're battling in d.c. we'll get an update on all the snow, sleet, and ice that's threatening large parts of the atlantic coast today and tomorrow. >>> and in number ones, where is the happiest place to work? that's...
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a great day to buy online health insurance. the obama administration says it's now hit its 90% goal which was its title -- 90% of its goal. i'm no math whiz but 7 million by march, that's a lot getting a error messages. they can handle 50,000 simultaneously and 800,000 visits a day. preliminary reports say 100,000 people signed up in november, nearly four times october's numbers but the official numbers are tba. chris cal in relaying data is still not working well. some americans think they are enrolled but their new insurance company says they have no idea. if the december 23rd deadline is right around the corner, which means happy holidays to you and yours and peter alexander is with us from the white house where the christmas tree arrived on friday. we can see behind you marking world aids day today. peter, is the website fixed? >> reporter: is the website fixed? it's a good question. we can say the president believes in the words of jay carney it is significantly improved. they just wrapped up the white house briefing a mat
a great day to buy online health insurance. the obama administration says it's now hit its 90% goal which was its title -- 90% of its goal. i'm no math whiz but 7 million by march, that's a lot getting a error messages. they can handle 50,000 simultaneously and 800,000 visits a day. preliminary reports say 100,000 people signed up in november, nearly four times october's numbers but the official numbers are tba. chris cal in relaying data is still not working well. some americans think they are...
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now have access to affordable health care coverage and no american will be again denied health insurance because of their hiv status. >> the obama administration now claims that it has met the december 1 deadline that it set for itself to fix the website. a status report released yesterday said while we strive to improve our systems we believe we have met the goal of having a system that will move smoothly. today the white house said there were more than 750,000 visitors before 6:00 p.m. eastern. the "new york times" reports the white house is hoping that 7 million people will obtain insurance through the federal and state exchanges by the end of march. but, the affordable care act will have at least one new customer. >> has the president signed up for affordable care? >> i don't have an update. i know that he will. the white house has said that he will. >> do you know what he is waiting for and when he does do that will you make it open press? >> i will get back to you. >> joining me now columnists for the washington post. governor, what is your assessment. it's odd when an administrati
now have access to affordable health care coverage and no american will be again denied health insurance because of their hiv status. >> the obama administration now claims that it has met the december 1 deadline that it set for itself to fix the website. a status report released yesterday said while we strive to improve our systems we believe we have met the goal of having a system that will move smoothly. today the white house said there were more than 750,000 visitors before 6:00 p.m....
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it also eases our minds when we're worried and nervous about just her health. we don't have to worry about, oh, my gosh, are we going to lose our house. >> justine, obviously you have enough going on in your life without becoming a spokesman for obama care. but what made you feel like this is something that you wanted to do, once the president obviously talked about you on tv? >> i mean i just hope that my story will help someone kind of look into the obama care and the affordable care act a little bit more, just to maybe benefit them or somebody that they know or somebody, you know, in their family that's struggling and needs this help, because i know if i was, you know, a 23-year-old on my own health insurance and i got this huge bill in the mail, i wouldn't be paying it because there's no way that i could. so i wouldn't be getting the care that i needed. so i just hope that it will help someone like somewhere out there that can get the care that they need. >> and, joann, as someone who saw all these negative ads, and you live in ohio, a place where political
it also eases our minds when we're worried and nervous about just her health. we don't have to worry about, oh, my gosh, are we going to lose our house. >> justine, obviously you have enough going on in your life without becoming a spokesman for obama care. but what made you feel like this is something that you wanted to do, once the president obviously talked about you on tv? >> i mean i just hope that my story will help someone kind of look into the obama care and the affordable...
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my co-pays and deductibles triple under obama care. i'm thrilled to death, as you can tell. >> we'll have much more of what the speaker said today in our first read. >> plus, a stinging new report on the deaths of the 19 elite firefighters killed battling that massive wildfire back in june. a state agency now accused of putting the protection of property over safety. we'll have new details there. ♪ ♪ nothing says, "you're my #1 copilot," like a milk-bone biscuit. ♪ say it with milk-bone. that's it? is go out to dinner. i mean, he picks up the tab every time, which is great... he's using you. he probably has a citi thankyou card and gets 2x the points at restaurants huh the citi thankyou preferred card. now earn 2x the points on entertainment, with no annual fee. go to citi.com/thankyoucards like a squirrel stashes nuts, you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® liquid gels. nothing starts working faster than zyrtec® at relieving your allergy symptoms for 24 hours. zyrtec®. love the air. >>> road and power crews from t
my co-pays and deductibles triple under obama care. i'm thrilled to death, as you can tell. >> we'll have much more of what the speaker said today in our first read. >> plus, a stinging new report on the deaths of the 19 elite firefighters killed battling that massive wildfire back in june. a state agency now accused of putting the protection of property over safety. we'll have new details there. ♪ ♪ nothing says, "you're my #1 copilot," like a milk-bone biscuit. ♪...
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alabama congressman moe brooks on the health care law. listen to this. >> the democrats right now, they crave something that will distract public attention from the calamity known as obama care. the democrats, they need a shutdown. they need something dramatic, perhaps a war, something. that will deflect public attention from how bad this socialized medicine system is. >> democrats want a war to district from the socialized health care law? how can republicans say something so irresponsible, victoria. and will all of this extremism come home to roost in 2014 in the midterm elections? >> my hunch is that it will. and we saw a little glimmer of that in the election in alabama where a moderate republican was able to beat out the more extreme tea party candidate. it might take awhile to see nationwide, but i do think that the tea party doesn't have the strength that it did previously. that being said, it is going to be interesting to see how john cornyn plays this out. because keep in mind, this is the first tea party election he has ever run
alabama congressman moe brooks on the health care law. listen to this. >> the democrats right now, they crave something that will distract public attention from the calamity known as obama care. the democrats, they need a shutdown. they need something dramatic, perhaps a war, something. that will deflect public attention from how bad this socialized medicine system is. >> democrats want a war to district from the socialized health care law? how can republicans say something so...
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and more than 50% think that obama care will make their health costs increase. president obama may have won the youth vote back in 2008 and 2012 with 60% of the vote but what harvard poll finds 40% of young voters approve of his job. he'll have a lot of convincing to do. >> chris, there are other polls much more popular with young people. that grabbed some attention yesterday. >> where is the surprise in all of this. >> i was going to ask you about this. >> why anybody in their 20s with very little money want to shell out anything for anything long term? they want to shell out what they have to shell out especially if they are married with kids. this is the old consumer curve. the indifference curve. economics 101. people prefer this stuff now. that's use get paid interest to lend your money and deposit it in a bank. it's indifference. people want the money now. so clearly for a young person to think ahead or take personal responsibility to say you know what if i'm in a motorcycle accident i want somebody to come pick me up off the highway. i don't want a sign o
and more than 50% think that obama care will make their health costs increase. president obama may have won the youth vote back in 2008 and 2012 with 60% of the vote but what harvard poll finds 40% of young voters approve of his job. he'll have a lot of convincing to do. >> chris, there are other polls much more popular with young people. that grabbed some attention yesterday. >> where is the surprise in all of this. >> i was going to ask you about this. >> why anybody...
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remember also the fundamental point of president obama's health care plan was to bring 30 million uninsured people on to the roles. nothing on that one sheet of paper you're waving around that will do it. >> do i want to say on that point the thing is you can take what works, what's popular from obama care and then you can put a different system around that. >> right. >> wait. >> the point is, guys, the point is we don't think this is working. and we should have an alternative to obama care that works. >> you should have an alternative that works and that want meets its goals. >> there's a lot of happy talk about well pre-existing conditions and pick the goodies off the shelf and leave the stuff that will make lives of people at the bottom of the ladder better. can i say two things. one getting back to the private-sector. if this was done in the private-sector people who have been fired. that's another important difference the way this is handled and the private-sector. secondly the next big test of obama care is not this website. it will get fixed. the next test is 7 million people signed
remember also the fundamental point of president obama's health care plan was to bring 30 million uninsured people on to the roles. nothing on that one sheet of paper you're waving around that will do it. >> do i want to say on that point the thing is you can take what works, what's popular from obama care and then you can put a different system around that. >> right. >> wait. >> the point is, guys, the point is we don't think this is working. and we should have an...
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i am so ecstatic that at long last our great country will be providing health care for everybody. it doesn't make any difference whether it's this week, next month or the month after. i'm saying my remarks were taken out of context. i said the president has nothing to apologize for. now, true, there are congress people that have taken this thing and there could be a big political issue for them. and saying you're sorry doesn't help. but for the 40 million people that have been begging and praying for being able to enroll in insurance, this is heaven. >> so these comments that you made in the middle of november, they were not directly in reaction to the president's "i'm sorry" message about the website? >> of course it was. anyone you say "i'm sorry" in politics it really doesn't count, unless you can get someone to pull down the lever, that's what counts. but i'm talking about listening to people talk about the computer. it's more difficult to get a motor vehicle license than it is to register for insurance. ever since the beginning, everyone said wouldn't it be great if everyone
i am so ecstatic that at long last our great country will be providing health care for everybody. it doesn't make any difference whether it's this week, next month or the month after. i'm saying my remarks were taken out of context. i said the president has nothing to apologize for. now, true, there are congress people that have taken this thing and there could be a big political issue for them. and saying you're sorry doesn't help. but for the 40 million people that have been begging and...
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is obama care a burkian approach to health care or a radical approach to health care? let's start with that? one of the big differences between burke and payne was a difference about what kind of knowledge is available to us in solving social problems. payne thought politics to a certain extent should by a plead to technical knowledge. and that one of the purposes of government was to allow for applied expertise to address social problems. block thought social knowledge could only exist in a form and apply it through institutions that apply broad ♪ ♪ stacy's mom has got it goin' on ♪ ♪ stacy's mom has got it goin' on ♪ ♪ stacy's mom has got it goin' on ♪ [ male announcer ] the beautifully practical and practically beautiful cadillac srx. get the best offers of the season now. lease this 2014 srx for around $369 a month . tistfest test test test test test test. with premium care maintenance included. ♪ >> welcome back to "morning joe." with us now is katrina. she is with us with her new being. also the teacher featured in the book michael goodwin. i don'
is obama care a burkian approach to health care or a radical approach to health care? let's start with that? one of the big differences between burke and payne was a difference about what kind of knowledge is available to us in solving social problems. payne thought politics to a certain extent should by a plead to technical knowledge. and that one of the purposes of government was to allow for applied expertise to address social problems. block thought social knowledge could only exist in a...
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and obama we fix this health care program because the credibility government is on the line and one of the reasons we're in such trouble in the 1970s and 1980s people lost fate in the government's ability to do something. the other thing he needs to do, he needs get on the path of an economic growth program. i mean, my view is that one of the reasons i wrote this book is one, ideas matter and secondly there's some important lessons from both parties. for my party if we want to build a sustainable party and we stay progre progressive -- if we want to build a long term majority then we need to get on the road of economic growth program and we can't, private-sector growth is a key to opportunity because if you don't expand the power you can't -- there's nothing to spread say round. >> steve, i believe and i'm sure you believe as republicans, as conservatives that the democratic party in 2013 bears very little resemblance to what bill clinton was talking about when he was campaigning in 1992. we always talk about the republicans problems, but the democrats have gone pretty far left at l
and obama we fix this health care program because the credibility government is on the line and one of the reasons we're in such trouble in the 1970s and 1980s people lost fate in the government's ability to do something. the other thing he needs to do, he needs get on the path of an economic growth program. i mean, my view is that one of the reasons i wrote this book is one, ideas matter and secondly there's some important lessons from both parties. for my party if we want to build a...